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[which_chick]

As if a get out of menstruation free card wasn't a big enough bennie from the hysterectomy, I ALSO don't have to consider myself pre-pregnant at all times. Huzzah for that.

Damn loonies.

Attention, federal government: I am not your baby factory. I never was your baby factory. You don't own me and you don't own my fucking reproductive choices.

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[cousin-sue.livejournal.com]

When they pay for the care, then they can have a say in choices.

When they cut funding for programs like Even Start that attempt to make ways of life better for pregnant teens because Mr. Bush doesn't think they work, and when they don't want to fund intelligent birth control, let alone giving us the money for the folic acid et al, then they can just shut the heck up about what they want me to do with my being Pre-pregnant.

While we are at it, why don't we put together a good package of Socialized medicine that will make us ALL have better health at an affordable cost? Then we won't have to worry about low birthweight babies from sickly or unhealthy women.

[cassandramorgan.livejournal.com]

That's ridiculous. "Hey girls! Don't do ANYTHING 'cause you might get pregnant!" And people were thinking the United States was moving forward socially instead of ass backwards.

[wootsauce.livejournal.com]

That article made me so angry yesterday. I flew into a rage and scared everyone I know. Okay, the two people who were online to witness my (usually amusing) impotent anger. The only thing keeping me from getting cranky, again, is that I just had two slice of pie.

[gwangi.livejournal.com]

I must really be missing something here. What are you so upset about? I think the CDC has a valid point - if 50% of all pregnancies are unplanned, then I don't see a problem with asking sexually active people to prepare for an unplanned pregnancy. And it's not like they're trying to get women to do some totally wacko things, either. They urge them to stop smoking, eat right, and take their vitamins. That's good advice for anybody at any age!

[which-chick.livejournal.com]

I am angry because I am under the delusion that women have value above and beyond their capabilities as baby incubators. Sorry about that, but it was a popular myth when I was a kid. (I blame the seventies, all that women's lib shit going on.)

I do not understand how a baby that IS NOT EVEN CONCEIVED YET can be more WORTH TREATING than me such that health advice and treatment GIVEN TO ME should be predicated on a very hypothetical fetus. If this stuff is important health advice, why don't they just give it to me because it's good FOR ME? Hell, why don't the feds argue that docs should give this advice to men? Doesn't the federal government care about men's health?

Look. If that fucking stuff is GOOD ADVICE FOR ALL PEOPLE, then why aren't the feds telling doctors to whine at everybody? They are not asking "all sexually active people" to lead clean lives. They are asking WOMEN to lead clean lives IN CASE THEY GET PREGNANT because their status as BABY INCUBATORS is more important than their status as individuals with some freaking right to determine their own paths through life, even if they pick wrong or stupid paths.

On a related note, did you know that one of the reasons teen pregnancy numbers are dropping is NOT improved access to birth control and it's NOT fewer teens fucking... it's lower sperm motility and viability on the part of the teenage boys. So, y'know, where's the great hue and cry to make sure that teenage boys live clean, healthy lives and avoid chemical exposure? Don't we want to make sure that, in the exceedingly unlikely event that young men have unprotected sex0r, they'll be able to offer up high-quality sperm to make a healthier unplanned baby?

When I see *that* argument coming forth from the establishment, then you can talk to me about how women should live carefully and cleanly so's to be better at the pre-pregnant game for the rights of the hypothetical fucking fetus.

[gwangi.livejournal.com]

They have been whining about all of these things to everybody for YEARS, as you well know. I just don't see the malice you seem to find in this more specific tack. Yeah, they're singling out a specific group in the warning, but I really can't see them doing it for the reasons you're seeing here. Heck, the reason they don't tell guys this same thing is probably as much due to the fact that we never go to the doctor as anything else.

And there's no way I'm buying your lowered sperm motility argument without seeing some evidence for it. Not that I don't trust you, and I'm fully aware of the dangers of environmental phytoestrogens and PCBs and whatnot in regard to male fertility patterns, but I have a really hard time believing it's even a minor contributor to decreased teen pregnancy rates.

[which-chick.livejournal.com]

You aren't ever obligated to buy any argument I make. I don't generally make crap like that out of whole cloth (http://www.slate.com/id/2140985/), though. Usually I have some kind of supporting documentation (http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/17/6/1437) even though I don't always include it in the rant itself. (People already complain that I link to too much crap, so I'm trying to cut down.)

It's one study, but it looked enough like real science to convince me. You are, of course, welcome to your own opinion.

[cousin-sue.livejournal.com]

It's not just this. It's other law cases as well.

Like the women who are under inditment for drug use, not because drug use is illegal (which it is, and so they should be in prison if they care found guilty in a court of law), but because they are endangering their babies because they are pregnant.

Too, they're *cutting* funding to ensure that these things are available to low income members of society.

There are a lot of factors here. Considering that it's considered a "poor career move" to get married and have children, and yet if a woman chooses to not get married or have children they are constantly questioned about that, we can't win for choosing here.

[namfle.livejournal.com]

Hi. cousin_sue thought I'd enjoy seeing your comment on this matter.

I did. :D

I also made a big stink of this in my journal yesteday and received a lot of responses from women just as angry as I am over this. Probably angrier, since this affects them way more than it affects me.

However, my ex and the mother of my child had this (http://namfle.livejournal.com/300566.html) to say. If nothing else, it's a view from the other side of the fence.

-elfman-

[cousin-sue.livejournal.com]

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[ornery-chick.livejournal.com]

This whole notion of "pre-pregnancy" has me more than a little bit pissed off. If I were to heed to their guidelines, I'd probably be doing a whole lot less heavy lifting, offroad cycling, and dtout beer drinking. Which is to say "there goesy my social life." Or I couls and will carry on in my hoydenish ways, doing my damndest not to get up the duff. Because I have no intention of wrapping myself in bubble-pack and mollycoddling my uterus in the off chance that it may someday "bear fruit" Blargh!