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which_chickEmployee drama. God, love the rednecks -- nobody else does.
Employee #1, whom we will call D, is a nephew in law of a friend. He finishes drywall. We need a drywall finisher for the store that burned. We hire D.
Employee #2, whom we will call C, is a young friend of D, here for two weeks or so. We hire C, who is not terribly useful but better than nothing and he's short term anyway. What the hell.
C's first paycheck, he cannot cash because he is not from here and being a mere pup, only has a paper driver permit and not a photo ID. I take C and C's paycheck to the bank it is written on, where I am authorized on the account and am the person who signed the FRONT of the paycheck and where Jim's wife Becky is the teller and knows me personally and is willing to take my word that if I say this is 'C', then it is 'C'. C signs the paycheck in front of me. I sign below his name. The bank cashes the check and gives the money to me. I hand the money to C.
C's second paycheck, he is not there to get because he has gone back to whatever hellhole he resides in, a place out west that we will call U. Now, D is from U and he is going there on Saturday after payday so I ask D "Can you get C's paycheck to him? It'll be faster than mailing it." D says "Sure."
The weekend passes. It gets to be Wednesday or so of the next week. C calls my cell and asks about his paycheck and if we mailed it yet or not. I'm like "Dude, I told D to get it to you -- he said he was going out there over the weekend." D is not handy, it being evening. Next day at work, I inquire of D: "C says he didn't get his paycheck... I thought you were going to give it to him." D says thusly: "I forgot it in Everett, told him I'd have it next weekend when I'm going back out to pick up my car." I say OK and call C on my cellphone and put D on and he says in my hearing that he will get C his check the following weekend when he goes out. It's like Thursday by now, so that'll still be faster than mailing it. While D is still standing there, I get the phone back and tell C that if he does not have his money by Sunday night, then I will send him a new check by mail on Monday morning. D hears this (and I made sure he did, so that he would know that this mess had to be cleaned up before the end of the weekend).
C calls me on Sunday night (of course) saying he still ain't got his money. I call D on Monday morning. He's not at work. I ask him about it -- he says "It was all a misunderstanding and I called him on Sunday to straighten it out and I don't know why he's still calling you." I say "Did you get him his money?" D: "No, I didn't get it to him. I missed meeting him on Saturday and then my phone died." I say "Y'know, if you're having trouble getting ahold of him, just bring the check back and I will mail the darned thing instead. He can wait a couple of days to get his money at this point."
After that, I call the office and have M look into the matter of C's check. It was cashed on Friday, July 22, at 2:40PM at the Everett branch of Susquehanna. She has the bank fax the photostat. The signatures on the check are problematic. The first one is C's name but it does not match the other three samples I have of C's signature (on his learner's permit, on his social security card, and on the back of the check that I personally I watched his mouth-breathing self sign -- I have copies of all three of these signatures on file at my office.) and the second one is the endorser who has an account at the bank. It is not legible. The bank promises to look into it. (The second endorser is not D's signature as he does not have an account at that bank.)
Tuesday (today) D shows up to work. (I was surprised.) There is no check for C delivered unto me. There is no mention of a check for C. I certainly didn't bring it up because I need drywall finished. I had already turned over the appropriate information to the bank (including copies of signatures, etc.) and they said they would handle it.
Tuesday evening, I am called on my cellphone by A, who is D's father-in-law. A is the endorser on the check. The bank has called him about this issue with the check. He tells me that he is not a thief. I do not think he is a thief. He says the check was already signed when he got it. I ask what happened to the money from the check. He says he handed the money in cash to C. I explain my position, which is thus:
1. I cut the check and gave it to D to give to C.
2. The check was cashed on Friday at 2:40 PM in Everett at a time when C was in U and thus unable to sign the check.
3. The signature on the check is not C's and does not match C's in several consistant and significant features.
4. C has claimed that he ain't got his money from the get-go.
5. Until the phonecall this evening from A, C and D were both in agreement that C had not yet been paid. Yesterday, in fact, D admitted to me that C had not been paid yet. But during the phone call of this evening, A tells me that he has done already paid C in cash, in person, directly from his hand to C's, on Saturday after the payday. (He did not get a receipt. I asked.) A then suggests that C is trying to "double dip" and get paid twice for the same work. Okay...
But if 5 is true and A did already pay C, then why did not D put some effort into that story during the intervening two weeks? D did not. D has agreed all along that C has not yet gotten his check.
Here's my version of events.
I cut the check and gave it to D to give it to C. D signs it (or has his wife sign it--looks more like her writing than his) and then gives it (signed) to A to cash "for C". A cashes it and gives the money to D to give to C, not realizing that he's going to be on the hook for the money. (He's not real financially astute.) D takes the money and never gives it to C. Maybe he tells himself he's going to "later" or maybe he figures he can tell C that the check was for less and short him the money or some other rationalization, but any way it is sliced, D does not give the money to C.
Then, A gets contacted by the bank. Realizing that this is going to blow up in his face, A calls me. He decides to throw C under the bus figuring that I will not take the word of a mouth-breathing pimply faced youth of near-negative utility over someone who is a reasonably responsible adult I have known (tangentially) for several years. And that's a pretty reasonable assumption, really, if you don't know me very well, which A does not.
Thing is, the stories do not match. D and C's stories matched yesterday morning. A's story does not match. While it's a good explanation for the observed events, it does not *match* the previously presented stories and it's pretty late in the game to change stories. There is no good way for D to retroactively say that, really, no, A did personally pay C on Saturday after the check was cashed.
I did not tell A this on the phone. I said "Wow, that's a damn shame. What you should do is get ahold of C and see if you can get him to write you a receipt for the cash that you gave him. He should have no trouble doing that if he actually got the money but for it to stand up in court, you'll need to have him do it in front of a notary public with proper identification for both parties."
And then I called C on the phone to tell his little mouth-breathing self that if he wrote a receipt for money he had not received, he would be in serious trouble for repeatedly requesting a check to replace the one he says he didn't get. If he really did not get the money, he should not even CONSIDER taking like fifty bucks to sign that he received $237.03 (the amount under discussion) because then I would own his ass for fraudulently requesting the replacement check that I sent him yesterday.
We'll see what happens.
Employee #1, whom we will call D, is a nephew in law of a friend. He finishes drywall. We need a drywall finisher for the store that burned. We hire D.
Employee #2, whom we will call C, is a young friend of D, here for two weeks or so. We hire C, who is not terribly useful but better than nothing and he's short term anyway. What the hell.
C's first paycheck, he cannot cash because he is not from here and being a mere pup, only has a paper driver permit and not a photo ID. I take C and C's paycheck to the bank it is written on, where I am authorized on the account and am the person who signed the FRONT of the paycheck and where Jim's wife Becky is the teller and knows me personally and is willing to take my word that if I say this is 'C', then it is 'C'. C signs the paycheck in front of me. I sign below his name. The bank cashes the check and gives the money to me. I hand the money to C.
C's second paycheck, he is not there to get because he has gone back to whatever hellhole he resides in, a place out west that we will call U. Now, D is from U and he is going there on Saturday after payday so I ask D "Can you get C's paycheck to him? It'll be faster than mailing it." D says "Sure."
The weekend passes. It gets to be Wednesday or so of the next week. C calls my cell and asks about his paycheck and if we mailed it yet or not. I'm like "Dude, I told D to get it to you -- he said he was going out there over the weekend." D is not handy, it being evening. Next day at work, I inquire of D: "C says he didn't get his paycheck... I thought you were going to give it to him." D says thusly: "I forgot it in Everett, told him I'd have it next weekend when I'm going back out to pick up my car." I say OK and call C on my cellphone and put D on and he says in my hearing that he will get C his check the following weekend when he goes out. It's like Thursday by now, so that'll still be faster than mailing it. While D is still standing there, I get the phone back and tell C that if he does not have his money by Sunday night, then I will send him a new check by mail on Monday morning. D hears this (and I made sure he did, so that he would know that this mess had to be cleaned up before the end of the weekend).
C calls me on Sunday night (of course) saying he still ain't got his money. I call D on Monday morning. He's not at work. I ask him about it -- he says "It was all a misunderstanding and I called him on Sunday to straighten it out and I don't know why he's still calling you." I say "Did you get him his money?" D: "No, I didn't get it to him. I missed meeting him on Saturday and then my phone died." I say "Y'know, if you're having trouble getting ahold of him, just bring the check back and I will mail the darned thing instead. He can wait a couple of days to get his money at this point."
After that, I call the office and have M look into the matter of C's check. It was cashed on Friday, July 22, at 2:40PM at the Everett branch of Susquehanna. She has the bank fax the photostat. The signatures on the check are problematic. The first one is C's name but it does not match the other three samples I have of C's signature (on his learner's permit, on his social security card, and on the back of the check that I personally I watched his mouth-breathing self sign -- I have copies of all three of these signatures on file at my office.) and the second one is the endorser who has an account at the bank. It is not legible. The bank promises to look into it. (The second endorser is not D's signature as he does not have an account at that bank.)
Tuesday (today) D shows up to work. (I was surprised.) There is no check for C delivered unto me. There is no mention of a check for C. I certainly didn't bring it up because I need drywall finished. I had already turned over the appropriate information to the bank (including copies of signatures, etc.) and they said they would handle it.
Tuesday evening, I am called on my cellphone by A, who is D's father-in-law. A is the endorser on the check. The bank has called him about this issue with the check. He tells me that he is not a thief. I do not think he is a thief. He says the check was already signed when he got it. I ask what happened to the money from the check. He says he handed the money in cash to C. I explain my position, which is thus:
1. I cut the check and gave it to D to give to C.
2. The check was cashed on Friday at 2:40 PM in Everett at a time when C was in U and thus unable to sign the check.
3. The signature on the check is not C's and does not match C's in several consistant and significant features.
4. C has claimed that he ain't got his money from the get-go.
5. Until the phonecall this evening from A, C and D were both in agreement that C had not yet been paid. Yesterday, in fact, D admitted to me that C had not been paid yet. But during the phone call of this evening, A tells me that he has done already paid C in cash, in person, directly from his hand to C's, on Saturday after the payday. (He did not get a receipt. I asked.) A then suggests that C is trying to "double dip" and get paid twice for the same work. Okay...
But if 5 is true and A did already pay C, then why did not D put some effort into that story during the intervening two weeks? D did not. D has agreed all along that C has not yet gotten his check.
Here's my version of events.
I cut the check and gave it to D to give it to C. D signs it (or has his wife sign it--looks more like her writing than his) and then gives it (signed) to A to cash "for C". A cashes it and gives the money to D to give to C, not realizing that he's going to be on the hook for the money. (He's not real financially astute.) D takes the money and never gives it to C. Maybe he tells himself he's going to "later" or maybe he figures he can tell C that the check was for less and short him the money or some other rationalization, but any way it is sliced, D does not give the money to C.
Then, A gets contacted by the bank. Realizing that this is going to blow up in his face, A calls me. He decides to throw C under the bus figuring that I will not take the word of a mouth-breathing pimply faced youth of near-negative utility over someone who is a reasonably responsible adult I have known (tangentially) for several years. And that's a pretty reasonable assumption, really, if you don't know me very well, which A does not.
Thing is, the stories do not match. D and C's stories matched yesterday morning. A's story does not match. While it's a good explanation for the observed events, it does not *match* the previously presented stories and it's pretty late in the game to change stories. There is no good way for D to retroactively say that, really, no, A did personally pay C on Saturday after the check was cashed.
I did not tell A this on the phone. I said "Wow, that's a damn shame. What you should do is get ahold of C and see if you can get him to write you a receipt for the cash that you gave him. He should have no trouble doing that if he actually got the money but for it to stand up in court, you'll need to have him do it in front of a notary public with proper identification for both parties."
And then I called C on the phone to tell his little mouth-breathing self that if he wrote a receipt for money he had not received, he would be in serious trouble for repeatedly requesting a check to replace the one he says he didn't get. If he really did not get the money, he should not even CONSIDER taking like fifty bucks to sign that he received $237.03 (the amount under discussion) because then I would own his ass for fraudulently requesting the replacement check that I sent him yesterday.
We'll see what happens.
